Okay, this is a review for tree fort bikes more than a review for the brakes. The brakes are good, but I originally received a pair where the pads were not returning as intended. I wrote and email to Tree Fort who quickly emailed back and contacted Magura. Magura took a long time getting back to them, but Tree Fort issued a return for me and sent me a new pair. At first I was a little bit scare of ordering a product at a new place, but kudos for their support and standing behind their product. New brakes are awesome (Minus two stars because of Magura Support). Tree Fort gets five stars!