Tree Fort sold this at a fair price, I bought it to replace my stock Bontrager Nebula saddle because of man discomfort. I adjusted my old seat a million times but just couldn't get it where I was comfortable. First ride on the Brooks I wasn't impressed but I knew I needed to make an adjustment, I did when I got home. Second ride with adjustments was outstanding, I could also see the leather breaking it with a slight shine, it was much much better and there was no pain. Hopefully it will get better with each ride, when I get it on the bike stand I will add more proofride to it.